Publish tidy-html5 to a Debian repo

[mcandre]

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[geoffmcl]

@mcandre as some background I would add -

Both I and @balthisar have added to an old bug report - https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=655200#70

Maybe a current Debian user could file a new bug? Add their voice to ours...

For Ubuntu I am holding open a question - https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tidy/+question/276623 - Maybe other Ubuntu users could add to this, or add something new?

As first I thought it may be the holiday season that delayed things, but we are now nearly at the end of January 2016 and still no results!!!

It is really ugly that the tidy offered is a 2009 cvs source release... or have I missed something here?

What else can we do?

[geoffmcl]

Hi Manfred,

Re: Update HTML Tidy package

Thank you for help searching around for a solution to this... you
are a great help...

In fact your search link leads to an email from Jason, clearly
saying he no longer has time to maintain HTML Tidy, dated 2011-06-01
01:05:31 GMT
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.general/162695/match=

So am also sending this to the MIA team -

Dear MIA Team,

Hi, I hope you can help HTML Tidy.

Back in 2011-06-01 Jason advised he no longer has time to maintain
HTML Tidy. Manfred's search reveals his last action was in 2013 -
http://search.gmane.org/?query=&author=Jason+Thomas&group=gmane.linux.debian.*&sort=date

I do not know your process in choosing a new maintainer, but note
for example that Daniel offers his help, twice -
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=655200#65
and
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=770129#20

Hope you can help get HTML Tidy updated, when you get a chance.

Last release: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/releases/tag/5.1.25

Regards,
Geoff.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 4:12 PM, Manfred Hampl <
[email protected]> wrote:

Your question #276623 on tidy in Ubuntu changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tidy/+question/276623

Status: Open => Answered

Manfred Hampl proposed the following answer:
When searching on the Debian pages, I cannot find any activity of the
Debian maintainer of the tidy package in the past two years.

http://search.gmane.org/?query=&author=Jason+Thomas&group=gmane.linux.debian.*&sort=date
shows the last activity in March 2013

On the Debian pages there are some pages dealing with the case that a
Maintainer seems to be neglecting his duties or cannot be reached, see
http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/beyond-pkging.html#mia-qa
and https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/MIA

I suggest you contact the MIA team.

If this answers your question, please go to the following page to let us
know that it is solved:

https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tidy/+question/276623/+confirm?answer_id=13

If you still need help, you can reply to this email or go to the
following page to enter your feedback:
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tidy/+question/276623

You received this question notification because you asked the question.

[geoffmcl]

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 05:38:37PM +0100, Geoff McLane wrote:

Hi Manfred,

Re: Update HTML Tidy package

Thank you for help searching around for a solution to this... you
are a great help...

In fact your search link leads to an email from Jason, clearly
saying he no longer has time to maintain HTML Tidy, dated 2011-06-01
01:05:31 GMT
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.general/162695/match=

So am also sending this to the MIA team -

Dear MIA Team,

Hi, I hope you can help HTML Tidy.

Back in 2011-06-01 Jason advised he no longer has time to maintain
HTML Tidy. Manfred's search reveals his last action was in 2013 -
http://search.gmane.org/?query=&author=Jason+Thomas&group=gmane.linux.debian.*&sort=date

I do not know your process in choosing a new maintainer, but note
for example that Daniel offers his help, twice -
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=655200#65
and
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=770129#20

Hope you can help get HTML Tidy updated, when you get a chance.

The MIA team doesn't "choose" a new maintainer, the most it can do is
orphaning a package, and usually that's a really lenghty process.

Whoever wants to adopt (and maintain) it, I think he should feel free
to do so, given the maintainer words in
https://lists.debian.org/1306890331.558.1.camel@localhost (linked by you
above).
If he is not a Debian developer, that's not really a problem, just find
a DD willing to sponsor such update, or otherwise send a RFS (request
for sponsorship), as usual.

regards,
Mattia Rizzolo

GPG Key: 66AE 2B4A FCCF 3F52 DA18 4D18 4B04 3FCD B944 4540 .''. more about me: http://mapreri.org : :' : Launchpad user: https://launchpad.net/~mapreri. '
Debian QA page: https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=mattia `-

[geoffmcl]

Hi Mattia, hi Jason,

Whoever wants to adopt (and maintain) it, I think he should feel free
to do so, given the maintainer words in
https://lists.debian.org/1306890331.558.1.camel@localhost

I'm willing to adopt the tidy package, and would suggest it for
collab-maint, as I am not a Debian Developer:

https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/CollabMaint

Cheers!

Daniel

[geoffmcl]

I am holding my question open...

Daniel has offered to adopt tidy package maintenance, but things seem to be moving very slowly... if at all..

Anything anybody can do to move this along would be much appreciated...

Specifically, could any Debian or Ubuntu developers, who are familiar with Tidy, please HELP!

[geoffmcl]

Just posted this on my question to keep it open...

*** HELP *** HELP *** HELP ***

Does **nobody** care that Ubuntu still offers a 2009 package of Tidy?

When 2015 releases are available - https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/releases - and we are moving towards the next...

Has Daniel's offer to take over orphaned Tidy been accepted? Being worked on? Any indication when this might happen?

As repeated, repeated, is there anything I can do as a Tidy maintainer to assist?

Somebody please HELP!

Can anybody HELP with this?

[geoffmcl]

Since we are considering a release 5.2 shortly, changing the milestone on this to indefinite!

[geoffmcl]

Cross posted on question...
Hi Daniel,

As can be seen here - htacg/html-tidy.org.binaries#1 - I
am trying to script a DEB build... one that passes lintian... I seem to have
narrowed it down to a few remaining issues...

Maybe you could help with this? Then when/if you take over orphaned Tidy
distribution, the ground work would have been done...

Or maybe you or others could point me to some good tutorials on building
an acceptable DEB... thanks...

Geoff.

[geoffmcl]

@mcandre - Wow, this feels like a break-through!

Check out https://github.com/danielhjames/tidy-packaging

Can others help Daniel, me, and Tidy with this? Thanks...

I am still learning Debian packaging, but understand a test can be done with -

$ dpkg-buildpackage -S -uc -us
$ pbuilder-dist sid amd64 build tidy_20160404-1.dsc

All help very much appreciated...

[danielhjames]

Hi @geoffmcl @mcandre

pbuilder-dist takes quite a lot of setup and you may not need it. It is only necessary to use pbuilder-dist for a clean chroot build, like when making packages for distribution.

All you really need for a local test is the orig.tar.gz and the debian directory from the above git repo.

You can omit the -S option on dpkg-buildpackage (which means create a source package only) and you will get installable .deb packages built for the host distro.

[geoffmcl]

See #406 for a DEB build problem... Maybe you can help...

[danielhjames]

tidy-html5 is now in the New queue for acceptance into Debian: https://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html

[geoffmcl]

As @danielhjames points out, some massive steps forward ;=))

http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/tidy.git/

Thank you! Read all about it -

On 08/06/16 15:28, Ludovic Rousseau wrote:

Hello,

Packaging for version 5.2.0 is available at http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/tidy.git/

Daniel, thanks for your work.
Use gbp to build the package push commit to the collab-maint project.
If you can't push your commits to git.alioth.org just send them to me (or create a github clone so I can get them from there).

I also uploaded this new version to Debian. The package should be available soon in unstable.

tidy is back up to date in Debian. :-)

Bye

AND

On 08/06/16 15:37, Ludovic Rousseau wrote:

One .deb is new and so require manual review. The delay is generally a few days.

I just got this email:

binary:libtidy5 is NEW.
source:tidy-html5 is NEW.

Your package has been put into the NEW queue, which requires manual action
from the ftpteam to process. The upload was otherwise valid (it had a good
OpenPGP signature and file hashes are valid), so please be patient.

Packages are routinely processed through to the archive, and do feel
free to browse the NEW queue1.

If there is an issue with the upload, you will receive an email from a
member of the ftpteam.

If you have any questions, you may reply to this email.

AND

On 08/06/16 16:29, Daniel James wrote:

Hi Ludovic,

binary:libtidy5 is NEW.
source:tidy-html5 is NEW.

Given the suffix number changes, it's only fair that the package be
checked over again ;-)

I've pushed a first commit to collab-maint for some non-urgent
maintenance, just to check it works:

http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/tidy.git/commit/?id=9aa28147ef9bb83e9f89d4683ab6890656acd03b

Thanks for setting this up!

Daniel

AND

On 08/06/16 17:29, Ludovic Rousseau wrote:

2016-06-08 16:29 GMT+02:00 Daniel James [email protected]:

Hi Ludovic,

> binary:libtidy5 is NEW.
> source:tidy-html5 is NEW.

Given the suffix number changes, it's only fair that the package be
checked over again ;-)

I've pushed a first commit to collab-maint for some non-urgent
maintenance, just to check it works:

http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/tidy.git/commit/?id=9aa28147ef9bb83e9f89d4683ab6890656acd03b

It works.
Now you only need me to upload a new version to Debian.

Bye

Dr. Ludovic Rousseau

; eof - ref: tidy-199-debian-build.txt

[AdamMajer]

tidy-html5 is now in the New queue for acceptance into Debian: https://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html

Why not update current tidy? Why have new package? Also, your binary package already exists in Sid, which means this cannot be accepted. If you wish to use libtidy-dev, then that has to be via current tidy package, not new one.

[danielhjames]

Hi Adam, this is an update of the current tidy package. The reason that the source package name changed is because it changed upstream, so it has to go into Debian's New queue. Also, the name of the libtidy package changed because the shared object filename now has a 5.x suffix, currently /usr/lib/libtidy.so.5.2.0. In the libtidy5 debian/control file we have...

Replaces: libtidy-0.99-0, libtidy0

[AdamMajer]

On Thu, 09 Jun 2016 03:06:48 -0700
Daniel James [email protected] wrote:

Hi Adam, this is an update of the current tidy package. The reason
that the source package name changed is because it changed upstream,
so it has to go into Debian's New queue. Also, the name of the

It still would end up in New because you have different soname, so new
binaries. With package name conflict (libtidy-dev), I'm not sure how
this is going to go through the NEW queue.

I don't see request to remove old tidy.

New upstream is fine, but package is continuing. This is not a rewrite.
So I think that it should stay with the old package.

Also, tidy needs compatibility headers since they were renamed. So
currently stuff building with old tidy doesn't build with new tidy.
I'll provide a pull request for that soon.

libtidy package changed because the shared object filename now has a
5.x suffix, currently /usr/lib/libtidy.so.5.2.0. In the libtidy5
debian/control file we have...

Replaces: libtidy-0.99-0, libtidy0

That is wrong.

Your libtidy5 should not be replacing libtidy0. It should co-exist.
They have different sonames.

Also, that README.source is from old CVS? Shouldn't exist there (even
if you just update old package)

PS. I didn't look at the Debian package, just looking at what is
displayed in the New queue.

[danielhjames]

Hi Adam, thanks for the offer of help, do you use collab-maint?

I removed README.source as you are right, it is from the old package. Please see the last commit on http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/tidy.git/

libtidy-0.99-0 had a Conflicts: on libtidy0 and I don't think libytidy0 has been in Debian since the year 2005 (according to the changelog) so I guess there is not much chance of libtidy5 and libtidy0 co-existing. Supposing we had libtidy5 co-existing with the also very old libtidy-0.99-0 (from the year 2009), wouldn't that mean having two versions of the same library, but only one supported upstream?

Also, I recall the libtidy-dev package provides a symlink for the library, wouldn't that conflict?

Cheers!

Daniel

[AdamMajer]

Hi Adam, thanks for the offer of help, do you use collab-maint?

Yes, I do have access to collab-maint, but not from here. I can look at
the package this weekend (maybe?), but definitely this month.

FYI, currently tidy is in process of getting updated at SUSE. It's just
going through integration testing. I will send you some patches Soon :D

libtidy-0.99-0 had a Conflicts: on libtidy0 and I don't think
libytidy0 has been in Debian since the year 2005 (according to the
changelog) so I guess there is not much chance of libtidy5 and
libtidy0 co-existing. Supposing we had libtidy5 co-existing with the
also very old libtidy-0.99-0 (from the year 2009), wouldn't that mean
having two versions of the same library, but only one supported
upstream?

Also, I recall the libtidy-dev package provides a symlink for the
library, wouldn't that conflict?

No, devel provides symlink to the package it depends on, so something
like,

libtidy.so -> libtidy.so.5

hence no problems having libtidy-0.99-0 and libtidy5 installed at same
time. They should provide different files.

Sometimes users have very old software that they can't
rebuild for whatever reason that uses old library. Hence why Conflicts:
for lib* packages are generally bad.

[geoffmcl]

@AdamMajer, @danielhjames, thanks for your comments... it is very good to read... we are certainly interested in Publish tidy-html5 to a Debian repo... some comments on what I read...

Why not update current tidy? Why have new package?

As a tidy maintainer, absolutely agree.

 libtidy.so -> libtidy.so.5

Adding this link is exactly the upgrade of tidy that is required, requested, here - across every distribution...

I have not asked my friends, the original SF maintainers, exactly why that last release 2009, was named: 0.99, but when the baton was passed on, to us, HTACG, we chose the first release name to be Tidy 5.0.0... but no API change! ... lots and lots of history in that...

Now, in building the Debian package, somewhere along the line I might have thought changing the base name would be ok for a Debian release... but fully agree, if it is possible, install and do the above link update... all is done...

Also agreed... no delete of the last... if an app has the direct link to libtidy-0.99-0.so then it will still run... but not sure when, how, ... to delete those???

The sample console app, tidy, as opposed to libtidy, is meant to always fully replace the old, and chooses to be linked to the matching static library... this should be a 100% overwrite...

Then any current app, linked to the generic libtidy.so will immediately benefits from the improved stability of the library... that is, an upgrade only...

So where does this go next?

Do we, as Tidy, wait for the new Debian name approval? I am sort of ok with that, if this gets tidy into distribution, after a much too long delay... 6-7 plus years...

Or, are there some simple debian build steps which will keep the preferred single name of tidy... ie no new approval is required...

Any help, ideas, you can provide would be much appreciated... thanks for the comments, and to @danielhjames for big efforts to get this moving... on a very important issue to us... getting the tidy update into distribution...

[AdamMajer]

On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 17:07:07 -0700 Geoff McLane
[email protected] wrote:

I have not asked my friends, the original SF maintainers, exactly why
that last release 2009, was named: 0.99, but when the baton was
passed on, to us, HTACG, we chose the first release name to be Tidy
5.0.0... but no API change! ... lots and lots of history in that...

Good, because OpenSUSE has tidy5 as new tidy. Uploaded it last week. So
everything that currently builds with 0.99, is rebuilt with 5.

https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/openSUSE:Factory/tidy

The only thing is, that you do have an ABI change hence you would have
had to bump the soname anyway. Now, let's hope you do not change the
ABI for a while!

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3784389/difference-between-api-and-abi

For example, when you added new enums, that is ABI change since you've
kept them alphabetical, which caused all the folloup enums to be
renumbered. Hence software is no longer compatible if linked with older
version.

ABI change require soname to be changed because software has to be
recompiled against new version of library to continue to function.

Anyway, this is probably old news to you.

Now, in building the Debian package, somewhere along the line I might
have thought changing the base name would be ok for a Debian
release... but fully agree, if it is possible, install and do the
above link update... all is done...

Also agreed... no delete of the last... if an app has the direct link
to libtidy-0.99-0.so then it will still run... but not sure when,
how, ... to delete those???

It just means user can install libtidy-0.99-0.so from archive
concurrently with the new tidy and everyone is happy.

When base tidy is updated, then this automatically triggers rebuilt
with new tidy (because of new soname). And old libpackage is
automatically dropped as it no longer builds from source.

The sample console app, tidy, as opposed to libtidy, is meant to
always fully replace the old, and chooses to be linked to the
matching static library... this should be a 100% overwrite...

That is fine. The binary can change to have new features and all that.

So where does this go next?

Do we, as Tidy, wait for the new Debian name approval? I am sort
of ok with that, if this gets tidy into distribution, after a much
too long delay... 6-7 plus years...

Or, are there some simple debian build steps which will keep the
preferred single name of tidy... ie no new approval is
required...

Any help, ideas, you can provide would be much appreciated...
thanks for the comments, and to @danielhjames for big efforts to get
this moving... on a very important issue to us... getting the tidy
update into distribution...

Have you contacted current Debian tidy maintainer?

• Adam

[danielhjames]

Hi @AdamMajer, hi @geoffmcl, the official Debian tidy maintainer has not been active with this package for some years, which is why I offered to help prepare this new set of packages.

The symlink:
libtidy.so -> libtidy.so.5
is provided only in the new libtidy-dev package, for people building their own apps against Debian's package of libtidy5. This is because regular Debian packages should get rebuilt against the libtidy5 package, against the symlink libtidy.so.5

This symlink points to the actual installed library, which is libtidy.so.5.2.0 for this particular release.

The next step is that when the new package gets checked in Debian's NEW queue, it will either be accepted, or we will fix it up until it is accepted. This can take a while, but new uploads should be quicker after that.

Cheers!

Daniel

[AdamMajer]

Well, I've just contacted the Debian maintainer and he said he'll like to keep maintaining tidy and has updated the package to tidy5. He just can't upload it because his GPG key was removed (long story, but Debian had lots of GPG keys removed in the 1k to 2+k RSA keylength transition). I've told him I can upload his package on the weekend. And then Debian will have tidy5 too 👍

[danielhjames]

Hi Adam, that's a good result, thanks. Will collab-maint be used in future?

[LudovicRousseau]

Hi @AdamMajer, I have not tried to contact the tidy maintainer Jason Thomas. His latest tidy upload was in Dec 2009. I guess his PGP key has been removed long after that date.

tidy looked abandoned. I am sorry if I made a mistake.

I am not sure it is a good idea to upload now a new version of tidy5. I would wait until the NEW package is handled.
Jason could join the effort and work on http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/tidy.git/
I am happy to sponsor a new version from him (until he gets a new key in the keyring).

[AdamMajer]

On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 04:54:36 -0700
Ludovic Rousseau [email protected] wrote:

Hi @AdamMajer, I have not tried to contact the tidy maintainer Jason
Thomas. His latest tidy upload was in Dec 2009. I guess his PGP key
has been removed long after that date.

Tidy didn't have upstream for a while too. There was little to upload.
But Jason is quite responsive via email. I've directed him to this
thread on GitHub. Hopefully you two can agree and co-maintain this
package in Debian.

But just to re-iterate,

1. you need compat headers to keep current software compiling with
   new tidy
2. tidy binary cannot be statically linked in Debian
3. distributing documentation for tidy is also a good idea

tidy looked abandoned. I am sorry if I made a mistake.

Always a good idea to email the current maintainer. It probably would
make tidy update much quicker :D

[danielhjames]

Hi @AdamMajer, we have been aware of https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=655200 since at least 2013. I emailed Jason via this bug report in March 2015 offering help, and he was emailed again by Geoff in January 2016, with no response. As a volunteer, I do appreciate that time is not always available to respond, so that's not a criticism.

Your assistance with compat headers would be very welcome, please take a look at http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/tidy.git/

In my version of the package, the tidy binary is dynamically linked to libtidy.so.5 but the static version is also included for users that need it.

I dropped the tidy-doc package as the upstream source no longer seems to build any docs other than the man page, although there are some Markdown files in the README directory of the upstream source which could potentially be included in a new tidy-doc package. The man page was included in the new tidy package, of course.

[AdamMajer]

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 02:25:25 -0700
Daniel James [email protected] wrote:

Your assistance with compat headers would be very welcome, please
take a look at http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/tidy.git/

There is a pull request that adds these to tidy. Just include that
patch and install headers to /usr/include/tidy not /usr/include (like
old package) and it will work.

#420

I dropped the tidy-doc package as the upstream source no longer seems
to build any docs other than the man page, although there are some
Markdown files in the README directory of the upstream source which
could potentially be included in a new tidy-doc package. The man page
was included in the new tidy package, of course.

You have to basically merge subdirectory of tidy api in there as well,

https://github.com/htacg/html-tidy.org.api

specifically, the tidy-html5-doxygen directory. Then you can build API
with Doxygen again via build_docs.sh - that may need to be slightly
modified for Debian too.

Personally, I think it was a mistake to move documentation generation
out of tidy source code and into documentation repository.

[danielhjames]

Hi @AdamMajer, thanks for the patch! I'll wait to hear if Jason is pushing his package update, or is willing to work with collab-maint, before pushing further changes. Thanks also for the explanation about what happened to the docs.

[LudovicRousseau]

tidy5 has been accepted in Debian with one comment:
"Please clarify the University of Toronto copyrights."

[danielhjames]

Thanks @LudovicRousseau I hope that the upstream developers could explain further about the copyright.

We have one serious bug https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=827716 which I somehow overlooked. I am away from my development machine this week but could fix it after that, it's a one-liner.

Also there are some bug tickets against the old package which could be tested and closed if someone would like to take a look at them: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?archive=0;ordering=normal;repeatmerged=0;src=tidy-html5

[jasonethomas]

Hi all, I am the missing Debian Developer, I've been busy for the last few years, working, getting married having kids. But things are getting less busy now and I'd like to continue maintaining tidy. I've already packages the current version and shared it with @AdamMajer, the link to my diff file is below.

I'll take a look at your packaging and see if I missed anything. My package is already lintian clean. We need to look at package names and versions.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/32lzjd8fqd8fo97/tidy_5.2.0-1.diff.gz?dl=0

[LudovicRousseau]

Hello @jasonethomas. Welcome back.

I think I/we made (a) mistake(s) with the upload of tidy. See https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=828097
I don't think we have something to do to help the library migration now.

[danielhjames]

Hi @jasonethomas good to see you on here! I would strongly recommend that you take a look at https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/tidy.git/ as a lot of work has been done there already.

@LudovicRousseau there are of course some bugs flushed out by the new upload but the fixes seem straightforward. We can help with the library migration by fixing https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=827891 which I am working on today.

[danielhjames]

Hi @LudovicRousseau I have pushed a bunch of fixes to collab-maint today which fix the serious bugs on my test system. Please roll a 1:5.2.0-2 package when you are ready.

[LudovicRousseau]

@jasonethomas do you want to review+upload the new tidy version?
What is your plan regarding tidy packaging?

[LudovicRousseau]

Ondřej Surý already uploaded a new version of the package to fix #827716 and #827891.
See https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=827716

@danielhjames can you integrate the changes from 1:5.2.0-1.1 in the collab-maint project?

[LudovicRousseau]

Ondřej created a NEW git repository at http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/tidy-html5.git/ :-(

We need to add the git repository in debian/control to avoid the same problem next time.

--- /tmp/FJjith_control 2016-06-28 21:29:00.951677084 +0200
+++ debian/control  2016-06-28 21:23:05.593448475 +0200
@@ -4,6 +4,8 @@ Priority: optional
 Maintainer: Daniel James <[email protected]>
 Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 9), libtool, xsltproc, dh-autoreconf, cmake
 Standards-Version: 3.9.8
+Vcs-Git: git://anonscm.debian.org/collab-maint/tidy.git
+Vcs-Browser: https://anonscm.debian.org/git/collab-maint/tidy.git
 Homepage: http://www.html-tidy.org/

 Package: tidy

I have not made the change to not add more complexity to the merge of Ondřej changes.

[danielhjames]

Hi @LudovicRousseau that seems like a reasonable solution since the git repo name now matches the source package. It's a pity that no-one emailed me before setting up a duplicate repo, but the important thing is that the new version of tidy is now in Debian and several people wish to help maintain it.

[jasonethomas]

Hi @danielhjames I just committed a couple of changes, to clean up and fix a bug.

[danielhjames]

Thanks @jasonethomas ! I had wanted to use the version of the man page built from the source, but could not figure out the path to it.

Other Debian Developers have set up a separate collab-maint project at http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/tidy-html5.git/ which I'm also using now, so I will sync your changes there. Then to avoid confusion I think we should take the original project down.

Would you like to be listed as the Maintainer: in debian/control again?

[danielhjames]

Hi @jasonethomas I have prepared a 1:5.2.0-2 release in http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/tidy-html5.git and changed the maintainer name/email back to yours in debian/control and debian/changelog. I'm happy to help with packaging via this collab-maint repo in future, should you need it.

[jasonethomas]

Hi @danieljames I believe a bunch of debian package use a collaborative
type address for the maintainer, I'd be happy to do the same and have them
go to anyone who wants in. I really appreciate having all your help.

grep Maintainer /var/lib/dpkg/available | grep Team | sort -u

grep Maintainer /var/lib/dpkg/available | grep Maintainers | sort -u

It might also be nice to have a "Debian.CREDITS" or similiar for
recognition of those that help package tidy.

Couple of other things:

• Do we want to look at including the docs again, or even packaging
  separately, which from memory it use to be done this way.
• Do we want to include these suggested by @AdamMajer,
  Add compatibility headers #420,
  Use dynamic linking as default and use standard define names #421

What do you all think?

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Hi @jasonethomas https://github.com/jasonethomas I have prepared a
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http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/tidy-html5.git and changed
the maintainer name/email back to yours in debian/control and
debian/changelog. I'm happy to help with packaging via this collab-maint
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[danielhjames]

Hi @jasonethomas I think it's better if an official Debian Developer is listed as Maintainer, as I'm unable to release updates without sponsorship. I can still contribute (like others) via collab-maint.

As for credits for packaging, one way to do this is to list maintainers in the debian/copyright file for Files: debian/*

The docs were moved to a separate git repo upstream, therefore if we wish to reinstate the tidy-doc package we might need a separate source package for it. This might be a good opportunity to rename it, as there is a name clash with a different project: http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/tidydoc/

#420 was already included in the package as a patch: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/tidy-html5.git/commit/?id=fa10ee7c30474ce103ccb23d7c327509dc121cea

I don't think #421 is so relevant for packaging because we currently build tidy with the shared library anyway (I tested the /usr/bin/tidy binary to make sure), and we only provide the static library for special use cases.

In general, as upstream is very responsive, I would like to suggest all known fixes go there, and that we only patch while awaiting an upstream release. Otherwise we have the situation of long-term patches where Debian's tidy is diverging from the upstream release, which can make QA more difficult.

Cheers!

Daniel

[danielhjames]

Hi @geoffmcl I think this ticket could be closed now, we have a new official Debian package of 5.2.0 with lots of improvements from different people: http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/t/tidy-html5/tidy-html5_5.2.0-2_changelog

Thanks to @jasonethomas, @AdamMajer, @LudovicRousseau, Steve Langasek, Pino Toscano, Mattia Rizzolo, Gianfranco Costamagna and Ondřej Surý!

[AdamMajer]

On 07/07/2016 11:34 AM, Daniel James wrote:

Hi @jasonethomas https://github.com/jasonethomas I think it's better
if an official Debian Developer is listed as Maintainer, as I'm unable
to release updates without sponsorship. I can still contribute (like
others) via collab-maint.

There is an Uploaders entry for more than one person.

https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Uploaders

Typically for group maintenance, you have a common mailing address, like
a mailing list, for Maintainer: and maintainers for the package listed
are listed in the Uploaders: field.

• Adam

[geoffmcl]

@mcandre, @AdamMajer, @LudovicRousseau, @jasonethomas, as @danielhjames points out, we try to deal with issues promptly, so if I have missed something, please point it out to me... open/re-open an issue... thanks...

But yes, it seems Publish tidy-html5 to a Debian repo has been achieved... a big thanks to all... so closing this here...

[zanona]

Any suggestions on how to upgrade if my system has the 2009 version?

sudo apt-get remove tidy
sudo apt-cache autoclean
sudo apt-get install tidy

still gives me the same outdated version :/

[LudovicRousseau]

You should upgrade your system to Debian stretch or Ubuntu 18.04LTS
https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=tidy
https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=tidy

[zanona]

@LudovicRousseau thanks, I will try that instead.